Why does Nicola want Anquetil to like Foley? Peter hero worships him/has a crush on him, and then is shamed by him in public; Selby is aware of a discrepancy between his public and private personae; Nicola is suspicious of him from Selby’s account and from his own behaviour. She thinks Anquetil is the bees knees, why does she want him to like Foley? To show her that Selby and her disquiet about Foley is groundless, and that Peter is safe in his worshipping? Or does she want Anquetil to like him in order to prove herself wrong about mistrusting him? Have I missed something?
To Nicola's bemusement, Anquetil says, “Sometimes you find yourself involved with someone with whom you have all the ties of affection and habit, but for whom you have no real liking. Just as you very often like people for whom you have no affection at all.”
This makes me think of Tim. Nicola later muses about being friends with someone who didn’t seem to like you at all, at least she thinks they are friends and she thinks it is dislike, but neither word actually feels quite right. This seems yet another twist on this theme. (Have just spent a frustrating while leafing through End of Term and Cricket Term, to find the quote, but have either missed it or it is Another Term, and now I need to get on with the day!! Please point me in the right direction someone!)
And that brings me to Anquetil and Foley: there's a lot to be explored here. Do we know where Foley comes in his family? I find I presume he is the youngest - which might leave him fed up with trying to prove himself as good as the others and "proving" himself the best as being bad? (Shades of Peter-and-Giles and of Giles' ill-thought, teasing advice to Nicola?)
Please share what you think about Foley and Anquetil! Anquetil abandoning his term-time, local lad friends to play with Foley in the holidays might not endear him to them, you'd think, but actually local feeling is all in his favour as a young man. Or does the village think it is fitting he should play with the local rich family because he is so clearly destined for greater things than a fisherman's life? I don't think the other lads would go for it even if the parents did. Does this mean his friendship with Foley meant actually it became his only friendship: in term time he was a bit of a loner because of it? So then he becomes more reliant on it in the holidays? Faithful Robert, because he takes the role as loner in term time so Lewis doesn't have to in the holidays? Lewis knows this, but doesn't care? (Tim might behave in asimilar way, one feels: thinking if her holiday friend suffered in term time because of their friendship that had nothing to do with her!) Somehow I think you have something more interesting in mind! And then there's the physical fights where Lewis wants to kill Robert (later Anquetil describes himself as murderously angry too) is this where the liking without affection comes in? And then now as adults they are tied together, but he (Robert) doesn't like him (Foley) - because of what happened in the war, perhaps; and Foley, of course as he needs to keep Anquetil at arms length does not continue the friendship post-war? Or is adult Anquetil lonely and Foley not interested? In the small fishing port, Foley on his infrequent visits will be a welcome visitor perhaps? I'm trying to see this as other than friendship / loyalties / childhood ties, but I can't take the step to any kind of romance or even sexual relationship childhood / wartime / or post-war. I wouldn't mind it, but it doesn't come into my head cannon naturally.
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Friendships
Date: 2014-06-28 09:01 am (UTC)To Nicola's bemusement, Anquetil says,
“Sometimes you find yourself involved with someone with whom you have all the ties of affection and habit, but for whom you have no real liking. Just as you very often like people for whom you have no affection at all.”
This makes me think of Tim. Nicola later muses about being friends with someone who didn’t seem to like you at all, at least she thinks they are friends and she thinks it is dislike, but neither word actually feels quite right. This seems yet another twist on this theme. (Have just spent a frustrating while leafing through End of Term and Cricket Term, to find the quote, but have either missed it or it is Another Term, and now I need to get on with the day!! Please point me in the right direction someone!)
And that brings me to Anquetil and Foley: there's a lot to be explored here. Do we know where Foley comes in his family? I find I presume he is the youngest - which might leave him fed up with trying to prove himself as good as the others and "proving" himself the best as being bad? (Shades of Peter-and-Giles and of Giles' ill-thought, teasing advice to Nicola?)
Please share what you think about Foley and Anquetil! Anquetil abandoning his term-time, local lad friends to play with Foley in the holidays might not endear him to them, you'd think, but actually local feeling is all in his favour as a young man. Or does the village think it is fitting he should play with the local rich family because he is so clearly destined for greater things than a fisherman's life? I don't think the other lads would go for it even if the parents did. Does this mean his friendship with Foley meant actually it became his only friendship: in term time he was a bit of a loner because of it? So then he becomes more reliant on it in the holidays? Faithful Robert, because he takes the role as loner in term time so Lewis doesn't have to in the holidays? Lewis knows this, but doesn't care? (Tim might behave in asimilar way, one feels: thinking if her holiday friend suffered in term time because of their friendship that had nothing to do with her!) Somehow I think you have something more interesting in mind! And then there's the physical fights where Lewis wants to kill Robert (later Anquetil describes himself as murderously angry too) is this where the liking without affection comes in? And then now as adults they are tied together, but he (Robert) doesn't like him (Foley) - because of what happened in the war, perhaps; and Foley, of course as he needs to keep Anquetil at arms length does not continue the friendship post-war? Or is adult Anquetil lonely and Foley not interested? In the small fishing port, Foley on his infrequent visits will be a welcome visitor perhaps? I'm trying to see this as other than friendship / loyalties / childhood ties, but I can't take the step to any kind of romance or even sexual relationship childhood / wartime / or post-war. I wouldn't mind it, but it doesn't come into my head cannon naturally.