[identity profile] jumpingpowder.livejournal.com
Sorry to interrupt the readthrough! I recently saw an all-female Shakespeare production and it struck me that all the parts Lawrie longs for are the male parts. The ones she will never get another chance at after the gender-freedom of a girls' school. In fact Tim (?)points this out re Caliban. - "'she won't [get another chance], you know. It's a man's part'. This was incontrovertible..." I bet Hotspur would have suited her, too. Poor Lawrie!
[identity profile] bookroom.livejournal.com
Why does Esther think Lawrie is an ass? And, given how timid and diffident she is, why does she come out and say so in the Tim/Miranda Shepherd Boy altercation during the art lesson in End of Term? It seems so out of character, and all the other characters obviously think so, too.

Just because she's so fond of Nicola and feels she's defending her against an unjust accusation of being unfair in not relinquishing the role of SB to Lawrie? Or because Miranda has put her on the spot and she has to say yes or no to a direct question? Or does she actually think Lawrie is a bit of an idiot? If so, why? Because Lawrie is a performer, when Esther suffers agonies at the mere prospect of doing anything of that nature (apart from netball...), or because Lawrie whines and strops so much when she doesn't get her way, and unlike Esther, makes no effort to hide her incapacities ('I can't light gas. It bangs at me')?
[identity profile] tosomja.livejournal.com

I'm just re-reading Falconer's Lure, and have been thinking more about the values or unspoken rules of the Marlow family and how they permeate all the books - and also how they are sometimes pretty harsh! I was struck by this bit in FL (p 213 in the GGBP edition)
Peter has just won the sailing race.
"'Jolly, jolly good' crowed Nicola, pink with pleasure.
'Nick, you mustn't'
'Oh rubbish, of course I can.  Anyone can see he was jolly good'
'Hush yo' mouth' said Rowan lazily."  etc etc.

It seems to me that Nicola has broken one of the Marlows' dearly held rules/values which could be something like

"When things are done very well, the person shouldn't be praised much (if at all), and pleasure in the acheivement shouldn't be expressed to others"

What do you think, and what do you think are the other Marlow family rules?
[identity profile] res23.livejournal.com
In End of Term, Lawrie, upon discovering that Jesus was not literally a shepherd, realises that she would have to say the line in the play "Lest he, one day, should be a shepherd" differently than she had been planning.  (Well OK, not exactly planning, as she doesn't have the part yet, but you know what I mean; she thinks that the line would need to be said differently in the two cases).  While I appreciate the distinction between being a literal shepherd and being a metaphorical one, I can't translate that into different ways of actually saying the line... (I was rubbish at drama of any sort).  In what way do you think the lines would be said in each case?  What would she be trying to imply differently, and what would be different about the way they're said - stress and emphasis, tone, just the look on her face, etc?  Or, if you can't actually describe the difference - do you hear it as different for yourself??

Or is it just meant to have been an example of her amazing acting ability, and even AF didn't actually know how the lines might be said?
[identity profile] ejarh.livejournal.com
In Falconer's Lure, Lawrie gets upset when Nicola cuts her hair as they no longer look alike, but in End of Term she's upset at having to walk in the choir procession just because she looks like Nick. I don't have my books anywhere nearby (sob!) so I can't trace this in any of the other books, but I'm wondering which is more important for her - looking like Nick or not. Lawrie is such an individual - there's no one like her - and SHE certainly thinks she's special, unique, destined for greatness, etc. - so her huge upset over the hair making them different seems a bit strange. In fact, you'd think she would be the one to cut her hair first. Thoughts, insights?
[identity profile] tabouli.livejournal.com
Some questions for the Forest Folk:

1. In Cricket Term, Miss Kempe suggests that Lawrie read Fellowship of the Ring to give her a better idea of the sort of creatures Ariel is. On which creatures do you think she wanted Lawrie to model her performance? Surely not the hobbits, who are of the rustic, earthy persuasion. But who, then? The Black Riders fit the "almost immortal but less than human" bill, but they're also menacing and creepy, which Ariel isn't (not from my dimly remembered reading of him, anyway). The ethereal, melodious elves, perhaps? (I also wonder about AF's take on LOTR, writing that into Cricket Term. Did she read much fantasy?)

2. In Ready-Made Family, Peter refers to Edwin several times as "your old man". Are there parts of the Anglophone world where "your old man" is used for "your husband", or is Peter using it in a more literal sense, because to him Edwin is so old? In Australia, "your old man" is, as far as I know, only ever used to mean "your father".
[identity profile] carmine-rose.livejournal.com
So, inspired by a comment in [livejournal.com profile] tabouli's discussion, I wondered if anyone could think of actors or actresses to play the Marlows? Or any of the other characters, for that matter?

We did decide on a skinnier, pointier Orlando Bloom (with yellow contacts) for Patrick...

(Links to the relevant imdb page would be appreciated!)

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