Patrick's education
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Trying to write a fic inspired by some of the recent AO3 additions and a nitpicking community post that came up shortly after. I've re-read Peter's Room and AT, but can't find my copy of RAH.
Am I right that in RAH, Patrick has been dragged to interview at Broomhill and tutors have been suggested, but nothing is confirmed other than the plan to sit his O-levels that June, which will be the same time as Ginty?
Will he still be 16, or turned 17 by then?
Prior to that, he was at his hated London day school from some time after Falconer's Lure to December in Attic Term, so is that one year and a term, or two? I think it's two and a term, so he would have been just turned fourteen and entering third year mid-year? (UIV, as Kingscote and my school would have it)
Presumably he was at a boarding school before that? Would he have been at a prep and then a Catholic boarding school for one year age 13?
Meanwhile, Dartmouth for Peter has the problem of not existing by RAH - is there any mention of Peter doing O-levels there? I'd like to think they push him towards science and practical qualifications and generally not being on their boats, just designing them Somewhere Else. I'm assuming he's then one year behind Ginty and one ahead of the twins, education-wise.
I don't recall either of their birthdays, but have an impression Peter's is spring and Patrick's summer - anyone know?
Am I right that in RAH, Patrick has been dragged to interview at Broomhill and tutors have been suggested, but nothing is confirmed other than the plan to sit his O-levels that June, which will be the same time as Ginty?
Will he still be 16, or turned 17 by then?
Prior to that, he was at his hated London day school from some time after Falconer's Lure to December in Attic Term, so is that one year and a term, or two? I think it's two and a term, so he would have been just turned fourteen and entering third year mid-year? (UIV, as Kingscote and my school would have it)
Presumably he was at a boarding school before that? Would he have been at a prep and then a Catholic boarding school for one year age 13?
Meanwhile, Dartmouth for Peter has the problem of not existing by RAH - is there any mention of Peter doing O-levels there? I'd like to think they push him towards science and practical qualifications and generally not being on their boats, just designing them Somewhere Else. I'm assuming he's then one year behind Ginty and one ahead of the twins, education-wise.
I don't recall either of their birthdays, but have an impression Peter's is spring and Patrick's summer - anyone know?
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Date: 2015-09-26 02:06 pm (UTC)I think he's two years older than Nicola, and sic months older than Ginty. 15 during FL, and 16 during Attic Term. There's definitely only one year between the end of FL and the beginning of Attic Term. I'm not sure when his birthday is offhand, but probably early summer, so he would be 16 nearly 17 if he did his O levels in the summer. That suggests he might have been put back a year when he started at his London school.
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Date: 2015-09-26 03:18 pm (UTC)It hasn't been confirmed in RAH whether Patrick's Maths O Level paper will be accepted by the exam board (or if it is, whether he has passed). Broomhill will take him if he's passed; if not the plan is to send him to a crammer to retake it.
I can't recall Peter's O Levels ever being mentioned. According to Wikepedia, Dartmouth raised its leaving age to 16 in 1948, which was 3 years before O level exams replaced the former 'school certificate' so given that a universe in which anyone would take O Levels at Dartmouth is entirely hypothetical, I would say for fic purposes you have free rein to create it as you wish!
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Date: 2015-09-26 10:07 pm (UTC)I got the impression from AT that he was taking the November exams because he was already older than he should be, ie had been 16 in the previous year, so by the following school year, he would be 17. Ginty makes a comment about the only people at Kingscote who do November exams are the dim people who failed in UV (and, by implication need retakes for university purposes).
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Date: 2015-09-26 10:26 pm (UTC)AT - Ginty reassures Patrick that it couldn't be shaming to fail his "levels" having missed two years of school -
P: "... Besides, falling off cliffs isn't any sort of excuse by now. Not when I'm taking Levels a year late as it is."
G: "Don't they work you hard! Only the terribly bright people take them at fifteen at our place unless their parents insist."
P: "And you're not and your parents didn't?"
[And so on to the agonising 'really do you love me' conversation!]
The inference here is that Patrick would be taking them in November, aged 16, whereas his fellow pupils would only be 15 - but this was considered unusual by Ginty; Kingscote pupils would expect to take them in summer, aged 16.
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Date: 2015-09-28 12:06 am (UTC)Nicola and Lawrie would be in the same school year as him, except that they appear to have missed a year too. Probably because of their incessant illnesses up to age 12.
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